We want Christianity to go back to the New Testament and the life we read about in the Book of Acts. Arrested NOT. Once burned twice shyis not a bilixal concept!!! As for me, I will stand on Gods word and challenge anyone who would do otherwise to bring forth objective evidence that these healings are from God. I promised her I did not get your email but will ask about it on the forum as I will also love it, as she said she is finding it difficult to post , not sure of the cause. Jesus teleported a whole BOAT FULL of Himself and the disciples across the sea. I heard of a series of miraculous healings on someone involved in a bad car accident and God seemed to be one step ahead of the doctors. There is just no convincing some people. But our minds must CONFORM to the mind of Jesus Christ..not continually making up our own way of thinking. This I did. Person will mostly manifest a demon (Satan has to put on a show after all). So, he went out looking for sick people to pray for. When I have worked in our garden the whole day, my body picks up dirt, mud and muck and do not need to go to Jesus to ask Him to cleanse me. Torben says himself at 6:44into the Speaking in Tongues video above that speaking in tongues is an amazing gift that EVERYONE should have because if you are not baptised in the Holy Spirit well according to Torben you are not saved, and that speaking in tongues is an amazing tool God has given us to come into a strong prayer life and relationship with him. Finally, Andrew you know I appreciate your zeal and commitment for what you do. It might seem like a small thing but faith is built in little steps. What the gentleman from Denmark is doing can to very easily be confused with the frauds and charlatans who claim to have healing ministries. Yet is happy to come on here calling Torben a trickster. And thank you Andrew and Torben. 'This is Going to Come to America': Evangelist Forced to Flee Denmark and Seek Asylum in US, Evangelist Torben Sndergaard's Wife Says Her Husband Was Not Arrested for 'Smuggling' or Any Other Crime, Mom Chooses Life on an Abortionist's Table, Finally Meets Her Grateful Son 2 Decades Later and the Tears Flow, 'The Chosen' Creators Announce Season 3 Finale to Premiere in Theaters Nationwide - The Reaction Is Stunning, Viral Video: Mall Security Guard Tells Man Wearing 'Jesus Saves' T-Shirt 'Take It Off Or Leave', 'All Glory to GOD!' Teshuva- you are absolutely right on saying this is Gods work and not mans and that man can only produce mans work but God can only do Gods works. And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. This goes for others also, not just Trenton, who have commented on Bill Johnson in this thread above, When you make comments about people who are actually your brothers and sisters in the Lord and say publically that they are not and condemn and run them down you are actually condemning and running down Jesus because He stands with them He is one spirit with them just as He is one spirit with you if you belong to Him, When you do this you fight against yourself, So if you cant say, The Holy Spirit told me regarding Bill Johnson in a negative way then I suggest that you dont say anything negative about him at all but take your concerns to the Lord in prayer and support him in prayer, I dont sense from any of the comments made by anyone above about Bill Johnson that any of you (commenters) have done this, But this is what scripture tells you to do, If you think you are spiritual then you are meant to be able to restore someone who you think is caught in a fault with a spirit of meekness thats the proof of your spirituality I dont see that in the comments made about Bill Johnson above, We need to be careful we are those who believe in the Lord one family. Share on pocket. Jesus has slowly turned that mass to water and graciously and slowly filled that dear womans bladder with that water!!! And full gospel is exactly what you will see Torbens Last Reformation is all about as he takes bits and pieces from every so called Christian doctrine and mingles them together. Redacted government documents surrounding his arrest can be viewed here at friendsoftorben.com. When you are born again you are automaticallySPIRITUALLYbaptised by Jesus Christ onto the One and Only baptism there is, where after the Holy Spirit comes to live in you. The practices of Rick Joyners school and Bill Johnsons are very similar. This video and your words have brought me to tears..tears of joy, excitement, and thanksgiving to Almighty God. I believe we are moving In a Direction where everyone is going to say Truly God has visited us! I believe we will see believers so full of Gods spirit walk into a Veterans hospital and heal every amputee and solider who has lost a limb or body part. It imposes burdens on folk that they were never meant to carry, as well as false guilt that they arent doing what so-and-so is doing. Teshuva, where Jesus said to leave them alone and forbid them not, I agree. He believes that the Holy Spirit, acting through him, can heal people. I just said, Lord I surrender to Thy will in this household.. (Luke 24: 27), And isn`t this what Andrew Strom is encouraging us to do, If someone cant just agree that that is what we do as we follow Jesus then they must be going their own way. We should not think more highly of ourselves than we ought. spread the word! Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. A man was in the corner with his shirt off screaming inaudibly at a mirror and writhing about as if he was on fire. They are not satisfied with belonging to Jesus, they would make Jesus belong to them. Definition of WEIRD Christ is displayed as being relatively, legally, morally & judicially qualified to uphold & maintain the will, the Word, the wisdom, & the work of God. The miracle spoke for itself. Trouble with cynicism is that it always disqualifies from What God is doing. You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! He has regard for all. Having said that however, God never asks us to throw our common sense out the window. Im pretty sure there isnt any FEAR in the DIVINE Holy Spirit. We sang no actuall worship song that I ever heard of. I am fortunate to have a dedicated group of believers in my life wherein we hold each other accountable and encourage each other in a daily walk in the spirit. You have no clue what biblical testing is, Do you obey Jesus and do all that He tells you to do? ! They complain about the driver, while they sit and do nothing. Asking questions is always wise and yet skeptism and cynicism is folly also. Andrew JH thankyou for that good news update . It is sadly often, as Terri has said, that it is other Christians who have been disappointed or are afraid what others may think that pour cold water on the faith of others. Amen, Marilyn..this is just something I have been becoming more aware of in recent times. Jhn 17:19 NASB For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWOPcBry4-k. Time will tell if Torben has been sent by God to do the ministry works of Jesus as His ambassador on this earth. Remove the hardness and scar tissues of doubt, unbelief, ungodly fear and incredulity we recieved from those days of past deception. And I will add that God will SEND His apostles, and prophets, etc.. to the people, just as He did with John the Baptist and every other man and woman of God that He has used over the centuries. And it is the church of the future. Thank you Lord Jesus! the Hebrew word: yare is used 305 times in the OT.most OFTEN in the NEGATIVE. Because His glory/presence is departing (Holy Spirit is grieved). John 3:5. His legal team told us they have filed an administrative request for release with ICE Detention officer Alan Young, who has the power to order Torben released from custody pending his asylum trial. Final thought to underline what I wrote earlier. There is even scripture that says some were casting out demons, and the disciples wanted it stopped yet Yeshua says that they who were for them were not against them and to leave them alone. He believes this is a vital part of true "disciple- ship". Dont let him do it to you. 1)God is Who HE SAID HE IS. 2) (TWOT) to shoot, pour. Weve seen enough of the problems. Recently I was working at a ladies house and noticed she was enormously overweight and who had breathing assist aperatuses all over her house . so-called information. Johnathan Isreal- I am not ashamed to take the Lords name Christian you can say it was a handle the worldly people mockingly gave to the early followers of Jesus Christ if you want ( I doubt you are right about that enormous leap of assumption as the text does not say what you so dogmatically assume. For us to think we can do anything apart from God, means we have cut ourselves off from Him. When He praised the faith of people, it was not because of their orthodox theology, or the fact that they belonged to some organization, but on account of their simple faith in His person, http://awildernessvoice.com/OneBodyInChrist-Chapt06.html, Roger..Absolutely Beautiful. I simply yielded to what Jesus wanted to do in that household! If we do that then we would start to veer off the road towards the ditch. As an aside, God doesnt need to use any of us to heal anyone. eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . ICE did not charge him with "gun smuggling," even though he was initially told this was the reason for his arrest. I honestly dont consider my understanding of this to be fully formed yet (ie, interpreting/understanding scripture) so Im reluctant to even try to discuss it in writing until I have a better grasp of things. and acknowledges the Catholic Church from1:42 in the video. Jesus had His disciples with him for a year or more, probably every day, before sending them out. Torben himself said we NEVER feel anything, but didnt Jesus feel something when the power of God flowed from Him into the woman who had the issue of blood? His touch cleansed the leper, raised the dead, & restored the ear Peter had severed. EVERYTHING IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS BASED ON FAITH/TRUST AND SURRENDER. Even in our disagreements we need to be glorifying God in all that we do. There is no such office of healer mentioned in the NT. I believe God is Sovereign and all things happen for a reason, as i came to this site after looking up Leon du Preez( Thanks again), but just when i wanted to share that post, i found this one. Torben Sondergaard is paired with his delightful wife, Lene Sondergaard. It is always Christ plus something else (usually new age). At once, the currents of holy power passed through my being, and I knew that it likewise passed through the one who was sick. share the gospel. Hi Tom & Deborah For those who accuse us of being guilty for following and receiving the Holy Scriptures promise in Acts, then we guilty as charged. I just read Luke 7 where Jesus raises the widows son from the dead and great fear and rejoicing fell on all the crowd. That is why we need to take care when posting our judgmental thoughts without first checking things out properly. My friend, who had been talking to her, had been kneeling as he talked to her in his great earnestness. David repentance is exactly what Torben preaches. Everything was dependent on the Spirits uniting men to God through their faith. In other words, the Innocent One died for us, the guilty. a) (Qal) Im actually surprised the way Andrew responded. Now lets take a look at what the scriptures REALLY say about WEIRD things taking place in Jesus Life.not to mention the disciples lives. QUIT TRYING TO PUT HIM IN A BOX OF YOUR OWN MAKING. At some point No indeed Trenton, I dont think hes a charlatan either, the thought never even entered my mind. There is no excuse for making such premature judgments and posting them in post after post in public. The Transfiguration was either TELEPORTING or GHOSTS APPEARING..which the bible condemns calling up spirits of the dead. VIDEO MIRACLES AT WALMART Please Watch!! Those who are the Sons of G-d are led by Him- Romans 8:14. We continue on and learn until the day we exit to Eternity. Torben is the founder of The Last Reformation, a worldwide movement that seeks to return Christianity to the Book of Acts. Updated 7 Dec, 2020. Genesis 15:9; 17:9. Seymour didnt preach that night. By Michael Ashcraft -. Spirit of FIRE enters person and they start to speak in tongues, convulse, jerk, have visions, etc. I know that Im sticking my neck out with this post but I cannot remain silent on this issue . Unfortunately, my blog has been down for a bit, and I havent had a chance to get it back up. I may have been a bit unclear in my position regarding what Chas 351 has said. The day is coming when nobody will question who is of God and who is not, because gross darkness will cover the earth and the people, but the glory of the Lord will be SEEN upon HIS people! I have a friend who is going to Redding California to Bethel church under Bill Johnson to experience signs, wonders, and healing. I know many false things are going on there. we have to be about establishing what is right. . Torben has been in jail since his arrest when authorities shackled him hand and foot like a terrorist. He even said that it doesnt really work in the church and that it is easier to believe for someone to be healed that you are never going to see again. See this article: Ask to pray for a person, any person, hijack them in the street or a store if necessary, and lay your lands on them if possible. For instance, if God can stretch a leg out 1/2 or so, why not find an amputee and in the name of Jesus command the limb to grow back? I think the scripture says THEY BELIEVED. Christians out on the street very quickly to pray for the sick and Its obvious from these verses that those performing these counterfeit miracles do so under the honest belief that they are doing them in the name of Jesus, but God is clear that they are not. Step 3. They will walk into a childrens hospital and clear it out, even patients who had chemo for cancer will have their hair grow back. Bill Johnson can not save anyone, only God can. ha ha ha The old COIN TRICK! If we do that then His work brings death to us. I think a quiet and humble response like this would be most appropriate: Sir (or Maam), what happened has nothing to do with me. God always has and always will place things in the midst of His miracles that cause the insincere and the sceptic to be scandalized over and can be interpreted as either genuine or a scam. There is a MIXTURE that has always been christianity. Baptizing you in water is a way of taking you back to the Hebrew way of doing things, and you push Jesus Christ completely out of the picture as the One who forgives you of your sin, instead the immersion in water is what forgives you instead. If youre not experiencing His tangible Presence in your private prayer time, youre missing the LIFE that Jesus Christ DIED TO GIVE TO EACH OF US for the salvation of the rest of the world. The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and to regularly receive divine visions. I agree with Andrew that there is a difference between cynicism and discernment. Be very careful. That is a very big issue, in my view. They have also filed a defamation lawsuit against a North Carolina man who Sndergaard's legal team claims has been publishing false information about the Danish preacher. So true about trying to put each other into boxes or us having to do such & such etc. I believe what Torben is doing is just the tip of the iceberg of what is to come. Andrew Strom COMMENTS? Share on whatsapp. I continued to suffer pain for almost another year, before going to a chiropractor, where I was first x-rayed, then we discussed my history. Miracles, signs, and wonders could be anything that has already been mentioned in the scriptures.both OT and NT..or even beyond those things.because the miracles and wonders that Jesus did the 40 days AFTER His ascension HAVE NOT BEEN WRITTEN FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. Certainly going to a local village for instance and seeing the Elder of a village get healed dramatically by us, is going to get the attention of the whole village on God very quickly and allow the preaching of the word to follow without effort. This is nothing but human sorcery at its worst . A new Spirit-one that is more interested in making men thrilled and exhilaerated than in making men holy and heavenly minded and a new hope a hope in this world and in this age- where believers will rule and reign in this present dark age rather than the blessed hope the glorious appearing of The Lord Jesus Christ from heaven and the hope in the life to come which declares , if for this life only we have hope we of all men are to be most pitied .. Go Torben . Friends are expressing dismay that a Danish man who works tirelessly spreading the gospel around the world has been arrested in America over charges of smuggling arms from Mexico into America. barryrschmidt@gmail.com, You know friends I totally get and appreciate both sides of the questioning miracles argument. Perceiving then that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king, Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself. To your credit, you were honest and admitted as such. I do not see anything wrong with what they are doing. Gods word teaches in 1 John 3 & 4 that the Holy Spirit resides in us. Also available on most smart TVs and streaming services. I dont want to put myself on par with Jesus and assume my obedience to the Father is perfect; it isnt. Ha, ha, ha! I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. The basis for the healing rooms training, techniques, and charge of admission is not found in the Bible. Its not a matter of some are more humble or nicer or more genuine etc, because ALL our flesh has the same susceptibilities and needs to forget what the left hand is doing. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. Each person has their own homemade version/definition of what that means. People being raised from the dead, people who were truly lame from birth given the power to walk, people who were 100% blind being able to see, etc. 1Pe 3:20-22 From the time of Noah (Gen6 -World buried under water) There have been times that you have fallen prey to allowing your zeal to post a story that was later found out to be untrue or not of the Lord. So Those who CANNOT GIVE UP CONTROL TO THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL NOT MANIFEST THE FRUIT OR THE GIFTS. If he performs miracles and preaches a false gospel of self effort religion, harsh treatment of the body , self imposed religiosity and legalism INSTEAD OF THE FAITH IN THE CROSS PLUS NOTHING THAT MAN IS A WOLF! Does anyone know whats happened to Randall Lowrey? 2.Where did Jesus say that? A Florida immigration judge has denied evangelist Torben Sndergaard's request for asylum. Stephen St. Louis..your post was SO on target. The Hebrews had been praying for over 400 years and received no freedom from their judgment of slaverythey were filled with UNBELIEF. 0 20 20 comments Best Ive only brought a dose of reality to the discussions, with some serious, and important, things to think about. fromheaven,orofmen? This is just my personal belief and not only will we do all that God commands us, but His very Glory will go before us. Organizer Torben Sondergaard is the man promoting his "Big Tent Revival" events on social media. I can perform this trick myself. Bob Jones, Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, etc, are all in cahoots with each other. Anyone who does not agree with this is just trying to drag you backwards. Thats why we view every news story through the lens of faith. I`ve felt people try & do that to me. ***In this era ofCENSORSHIP and CANCEL CULTURE, Please sign up forCBN Newslettersto keep receiving the latest news you need.***. See article on biblical explanation of. Lets see why: Baptism in water was for Jewish unbelievers. Come on people! acting through Torben, to see if it is from God. But I dont think he forbids us either to learn and talk about what scripture teaches us, concerning not profaning the holy things (specifically miracles) and where it can lead, especially where miracles are taking place. They watched how the Lord sent them into the Land and took victory over and over. Torben and Ronald did say that they felt nothing when they prayed for people who were healed. He avoided being arrested in 2019. People who claim to be believe in Jesus who dont even recognize Him when He is in one if His servants doing exactly what He always does- loving ordinary people, healing the sick, casting out demons and preaching good news??? Thank you Andrew for this next follow up of Torben. Using Jesus' words in Luke chapter 10, Torben refreshingly reveals that Jesus' message was not only for His disciples and those who lived during that period of time . it means we dont have to produce it or make it shine from self effort or striving . Many of us do of course but not in the main. I believe this goes along with the last revival article by Wilkerson. A bush that burns but is never consumed : of strange or extraordinary character : ODD, FANTASTIC, Antonyms I knew it would not be wise to thus lay my hands upon the sick woman, as I was likely to jar her. The Holy Spirit does the preparing of the soil of peoples hearts. These are those who are like back-seat drivers; they love to stereotype and put all healing gifters into the same box. This supernatural revival among the normal ordinary folk that I prophesied about is waiting for us to cease from our religious striving, place all our hope and confidence in Jesus alone plus nothing of ourselves, surrender and yield to the Holy Spirit who will come like a pent up flood when we do. They would not exercise faith and do works of the Spirit to glorify God, but rather prevent unbelievers from entering in. other ditch on the far side of the road. preached. A friend of mine said that it is unimportant how we baptize our job is just to save sinners. Attacks against his ministry in Denmark began in 2016 when the Jesus Center was investigated by six different Danish government agencies for everything from food safety to unpaid taxes. He stands for repentance, holiness and reformation Always listen to the teaching and doctrine of the one doing the miracles first and second if you are able check out the fruit (lifestyle) of the one doing miracles. His organization, The Last Reformation, has been described as extreme, dangerous and a cult by former followers, former board members of the organization, the press, other churches, and professionals. And they said to him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. Everything God does is HOLY- EVERYTHING GOD DOES FOR US , IN IS AND THROUGH IS IS HOLY-His love is holy, His works are holy , His miracles are holy, His motives are holy EVERYTHING INITIATED AND COMPLETED BY MAN IS UNHOLY AND PROFANE! It is in our HEART how we treat the things of God but that is what repentance is for, and growth. Let Gods holiness arise in His people ! The man removed the wooden leg and stood before Seymour standing on his one good leg. Sndergaard's legal team told CBN News that while ICE has discretion to detain someone who has an asylum application pending, it is extremely irregular for ICE to detain someone with a pending asylum application without criminal charges being involved. In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. Then what am I crying for? Some fall into the ditch And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his [other] flesh. First, she told about the man with the wooden leg. On the Last Reformation website, it is stated, "We believe that the church is facing a new reformation." Specifically, A reformation that will go deeper than any reformation before: away from church traditions, suffocating structures and countless meetings in church buildings. 3.and receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit in faith with the signs of tongues, casting out demons and healing the sick with the laying on of hands in faith. Especially when it starts out with leg lengthening which seems to have been one of the frauds / hucksters favorite tricks. The Holy Spirit jumped for joy within me. I have just posted Because they have slowly over time been taught and have become habituated to WIERDSVILLE . average, commonplace, everyday, garden, normal, ordinary, prosaic, routine, run-of-the-mill, standard, typical, unexceptional, unremarkable, usual, workaday; conformist, conservative, conventional; expected, familiar, knee-jerk, predictable; common, customary, frequent, habitual, regular. 1Co 10:1-4 Israelites passing through the see(Baptized unto Moses). See also John 1:12-13. the pros and cons on this website -just get out there and listen to what the HS tells you whilst out and do it. His mother really meant a lot to him and when he heard this bad news he cried and cried and then he prayed to God. Only God knows. Too PRE-OCCUPIED with a devil that has been falsely portrayed as having EQUAL POWER AND AUTHORITY as the TRINITY..which includes the Holy Spirit that is dwelling within EVERY BORN AGAIN person. 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